pat downs

[bhagler]

I'll respond to the original post......

I think we can all safely say there is people we work around that shouldn't be there. My capacity is that of a total peon. Luckily, I am in charge of training. What we've done in the past has worked so far, maybe give it a try.

We include searches etc. in our DT program. Within the past year, I now video document all of that training. We do a lot of simulation training and the tape is a great witness. If I'm sent a potential problem child (officer), I make sure we cover the problem they're having more in-depth. After the classes or evolution we do a friendly, not so friendly critique of all who participated. Sometimes the person needs to see that they're actually screwing up, on tape to believe it. Also I work in a county facility and we tape all bookings and other "hot" areas. Nothing like a actual tape played in front of your peers, to show your mistakes. Now we are wise about this, we don't ridicule them, they need to learn. And the ones who don't make it, well we've all seen them doing security at our local neighborhood Walmart.

[JohnnyReb]

Some people are just plain stupid. It takes a major incident to wake one of them up...

Have you tried a good quality 1 on 1 talk? Don't ever effect my safety, I want to come home at night..

[robeans]

I actually saw a guy do a pat search while sitting in a chair. I have to say that was the pinnacle of pure unadulterated laziness. And this is a guy has worked for a long time at some bad ass joints too, he was at New Mexico State Pen during the riots, so he should have known better.

[grunt11b]

Originally Posted by Crosstimbers Okie

Pretty stupid to take them out. 20 rounds is much better than 5 when someone has thugs crawling all over them.

I would rather noone shoot at all with thugs crawling all over me. I will gladly wait for backup instead. All it takes is one accidental round hitting your butt and it's all over, I will take my chances. I don't trust anyone who has a bead within 2 feet of me.

[grunt11b]

Originally Posted by CO4NYSsoon2bDI

In NYS we have the AR-15 rifle.

But I cannot understand why they wil only authorize us to fill a 15-round clip with just 5 motivated rounds??? Anyone fill me in?? They give us plenty of Ammo, but policy states that only 5 rounds will be loaded at a time. Hmmmm......

that's encase you might enjoy killing inmates. They don't want you to get too carried away with it.

[grunt11b]

Originally Posted by robeans

I actually saw a guy do a pat search while sitting in a chair. I have to say that was the pinnacle of pure unadulterated laziness. And this is a guy has worked for a long time at some bad ass joints too, he was at New Mexico State Pen during the riots, so he should have known better.

Although not funny, it is really funny, I would have paid money to see it, right before I kicked him out of the chair.

[CO4NYSsoon2bDI]

Me??? Enjoy killing inmates??? Noo....I work for NYS!! Why kill them, when you can hug them, and hold their hand through their bad days!! Eye be tellin youse what, them inmates be some gud money-makers fo' me!! They bees helpin'me to buy that there ole' pontoon boat, and a gussied up house!! Cuz I be knoing that theys neva gunna be Abel to be affoding the notes for them Fancey thangs! (Switched into inmate speak there. I had an 8-hour outer hospital watch shift with an inmate that talked just like that!!)

[JohnnyReb]

Good save the tax payer's money.

[robeans]

Originally Posted by grunt11b

Although not funny, it is really funny, I would have paid money to see it, right before I kicked him out of the chair.

Yeah, it was on our job shadow day before we starting working our regular shift. While I've been a CO for a few years at other joints, there were at least three dudes who were fresh standing with me. This guy is a huge sack of TURDS.

[joe]

she should have another officer teach her how to pat seach inmate , prob female officer
done right way.