Correctional officer killed at USP-Atwater

[lwinger]

A101st

Hooah!!!! is all I can say.

[darkman]

Originally Posted by a101stvietvet

at great risk of incurring more rants from people who consider me a shirt, Ill have to say that the old days are not dead unless you let them die. We in here talk about the brotherhood. Well ,I will always and have always been a member of that brotherhood wether I was wearing the uniform or a suit.

Brothers don't Bang in just because they are pissed. They know that someone has to cover their shift. Brothers don't mind getting to work a little early to ensure the timely relief of their brother and sisters in the unit needing to get home.

On the other hand I always was adamant that I get paid for my shift and overtime..but I never considered that small period of time part of the shift we just did it because it was for the good of the brotherhood had nothing to do with the Suits.

You can still take care of each other and still have the right to protect your self in the facilities. Policy dosent or at least it didnt when I retired say you have to let a convict assault you before you can restrain him..

I am not saying that you active hacks are not doing all of this but i hear constantly that no one sticks together anymore. Get back to the us/ them days and you will do better. Cover each others butt wether you like that staff member or not. As a former member of management I would never advocate anything less than the truth . but to all those cerb"s (Cheese eating rat Bas****) get it together or get down the road..

Well said Chuck.... That's what I have always said, it isn't dead unless you let it die. Got a problem with another hack? Work it out. We used to tell the convicts that custody is the biggest gang in this prison. Mess with one of us and you mess with all of us. Prue and simple.
While the administration may try and impose their will upon the facility they are not there where the rubber meets the road. It's your decision to cut corners and enforce stupid ****. Drag your ass into work a little early, find out what's going on. Wanna freak the administration out? Get your evening watch officer's together and get everyone to start coming in at the same time, in mass through the sally port. Do it 10 or 15 minutes before your shift. You want to be a team start acting like a team. Have some fun while your doing it.

Sorry maybe a little off the point but you all know me well enough by now to know I tend to ramble....

[darkman]

OH!!! I have something else to say...

I was SIA at two joints and at both of those joints I was made to feel like a evil co*k smoking yes man for the administration. I protected more staff members jobs than I ever took. Those that I was involved in taking deserved to be gone.

STORY TIME:
Had a staff member at USP MARION
stole a TV, VCR video camera from the warehouse. Which is bad enough but he made two camp inmates load the **** into his van. I don't know what upset me more, the fact he stole the crap or the fact he involved inmates in it.
Well when we started the investigation some of the staff gathered round this staff member. It even went so far that I had to transfer the inmates because of the threats from other staff members. The whole thing amazed me to no end. I'm not an inmate lover, anyone that knows me knows that. But it wasn't right to involve inmates or threaten them because the staff member wanted the equipment. I lost a lot of respect for the staff that lied for the staff member. I never understood why staff would protect a dirty staff member. If he would do that what else would he do to get what he wanted?
My point I guess, is look at your administrative staff, investigators, Lieutenant's and Captain's. Don't take other staff members words for how they are find out for yourself. It just might be that your on the same side....

[gordo retired hack]

i agree with darkman. chuck mildner one of the finest bureau staff member i've ever met testified at my trial as usp leavenworths s.i.a..

[GenPopCo]

at the duece, USP2 Coleman, an inmate assaulted the DHO, something about pushing the computer screen, didnt get the full skinny, but after he was restrained, i guess he said "What can happen at Atwater can happen here" USP2 is the easiest pen in the bereau, the snitches paradise, so if it can happen here (which it can) it can happen anywhere in the BOP. Its gonna be a long hot summer boys, be safe.

[hack4hire]

Originally Posted by a101stvietvet

at great risk of incurring more rants from people who consider me a shirt, Ill have to say that the old days are not dead unless you let them die. We in here talk about the brotherhood. Well ,I will always and have always been a member of that brotherhood wether I was wearing the uniform or a suit.

Brothers don't Bang in just because they are pissed. They know that someone has to cover their shift. Brothers don't mind getting to work a little early to ensure the timely relief of their brother and sisters in the unit needing to get home.

On the other hand I always was adamant that I get paid for my shift and overtime..but I never considered that small period of time part of the shift we just did it because it was for the good of the brotherhood had nothing to do with the Suits.

You can still take care of each other and still have the right to protect your self in the facilities. Policy dosent or at least it didnt when I retired say you have to let a convict assault you before you can restrain him..

I am not saying that you active hacks are not doing all of this but i hear constantly that no one sticks together anymore. Get back to the us/ them days and you will do better. Cover each others butt wether you like that staff member or not. As a former member of management I would never advocate anything less than the truth . but to all those cerb"s (Cheese eating rat Bas****) get it together or get down the road..

I'm a fkn prick, and I in know way consider you a shirt, was gonna chime in earlier on some of your posts...I'll put it way simple as a 18 yr vet at LVN...I'd work for you anytime, any place

[hack4hire]

Originally Posted by gordo retired hack

could'nt have said it better. get tough and be safe!!!!!!!

muledeer you sound like JohnG...another that said Fk it I'm outta this mess

[Atw-Hacksgirl]

Don't know if you guys have read this, but saw it and had to post it.
This was posted in response to the journalist at the Merced Sun Star.

The plight of the correctional officer is never ending. It is a story which continues with no ending. I would like to share with you something that speaks volums and which any one working in the profession must deal with.

WHEN GOD MADE CORRECTION OFFICERS

When the Lord was creating CORRECTION OFFICERS, he was into his sixth day of overtime when an angel appeared and said, "You're doing a lot of fiddling around on this one".

And the Lord said, "Have you read the specs on this order?"

A CORRECTION OFFICER must always bear in mind that rehabilitation is based on self-respect. In the event of rebellious actions or disparaging remarks towards them by inmates they must always maintain a quite firm demeanor.

A CORRECTIONAL OFFICER has to be able to tolerate the ignorance of some, without losing hope.

A CORRECTIONAL OFFICER must also be prepared to cover a life-threatening situation, canvass the institution for witnesses, and testify the next day.

A CORRECTIONAL OFFICER has to be in top physical condition at all times, running on black coffee and half-eaten meals when it is necessary.

A CORRECTIONAL OFFICER has to have six pairs of hands.

The angel shook her head slowly and said, "Six pairs of hands... no way!"

"It's not the hands that are causing me problems," said the Lord, "it's the three pairs of eyes an Officer has to have."

"Is that on the standard model?" asked the angel.

The Lord nodded and said, "One pair that sees through a bulge in a pocket before the Officer asks, "May I see what's in there, sir?" (When the Officer already knows and wishes he'd taken that accounting job.) "the second pair, here in the side of his head for his fellow Officers safety and the third pair of eyes here in front that can look reassuringly at a bleeding victim and say, "You'll be all right, when the Officer knows it isn't so."

"Lord," said the angel, touching his sleeve, "rest and work on this tomorrow."

"I can't," said the Lord, "I already have a model that can talk a 250 pound inmate out of a rebellious intention without incident and feed a family of five on a civil service paycheck."

The angel circled the model of the CORRECTIONAL OFFICER very slowly, "Can it think?" the angel asked.

The Lord said "Can it think!

A CORRECTIONAL OFFICER can recite departmental rules in its sleep; detain, investigate, search, and arrest a gang member on a tier in less time than it takes five learned judges to debate the legality of a traffic stop... and still it keeps its sense of humor.

"This CORRECTIONAL OFFICER also has phenomenal personal control.

A CORRECTIONAL OFFICER can deal with crime scenes painted in hell, professionally watch over a child abuser not allowing emotions to stand in the way of helping a inmate better himself, comfort a fellow Officers family with a loss, and then read in the daily paper how the department and its Officers are not sensitive to the rights of criminals.

Finally, the angel bent over and ran her finger across the cheek of the CORRECTION OFFICER. "There's a leak," the angel pronounced. "I told you that you were trying to put too much into this model!" the angel exclaimed.

"That's not a leak," said the Lord, "it's a tear"

"What's the tear from?" asked the angel.

"It's for bottled-up emotions, for fallen comrades, for commitment to that tattered piece of cloth called the American flag, and for lady justice."

"You're a genius," said the angel.

The Lord looked somber and said "I didn't put that tear there."

Author Unknown

Mr. Patton the next time a correctional is murdered, know that he or she walks the meanest streets there ever were and in a neighborhood that some would not venture. Remember always remember the thankless job they do in keeping socity safe from those that the public think the laws are to tough on.

[darkman]

Thank you for that.. had never seen it before

[miami]

Originally Posted by ATW-Hack

Thanks for the thoughts and prayers guys... I'm sitting here with my skin crawling just wanting to throw on the uniform and go in... already been told to stay home, nothing I could do anyway. Going a little crazy here!

I call on all BOP Officers to call there local Reps and cast a no Confidence vote on Lappin and have him removed.