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Failure To Report
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53720: Daniel Lowe, Respondent, v. George Lombardi, Director of Division of Adult Institutions, Appellant.
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Re: Failure To Report
Just goes to prove. Be sure that what you write reflects what happened. I wouldn't put my job on the line for someone who goes outside of the use of force continuim to restrain an offender.
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I can't believe you would want someone to tell on a fellow staff member , I would if they were screwing a inmate or bringing something in but other than that i take the failure to report , i know i hear all this talk about how you can be fired and all this in the Bureau for failure to report but i have yet to see this and i know alot of people who was hit with failure to report maybe some the old timers can shime in on this , i always thought the threat of being fired for failure to report was the Bureau way of scarying you into snitching.
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Failure to Report and falsifying are the two biggest things that get staff time on the street, fired or charged with a crime. I have seen these type of scenarios happen here at Coleman numerous times.
Example: Staff accidentally discharged their weapon in the mobile patrol. Keep in mind accidentally. Well, they got scared and didn't report it. They tried to replace the round the next day when they came in but the relieving officer actually counted their rounds upon relief. That staff got in to a world of trouble for not reporting. There was going to be nothing other than a refresher class for weapons refam if he had reported it immediately. DOHHHHHHHH |
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I don't know dude. I've seen some dudes bite the dust over some Failure to Report B.S.
One was a Captain who put a sleeper hold on a cuffed-up inmate in SHU. He got walked out. Another staff who witnessed it got 14 days on the street. I think she was spared 'cause when they first asked her about it she sang like Pavarotti. Another guy watched two inmates fight right along with other inmates rooting for one of the combatants. He was walked out for "Gross deriliction of duty and Failure to Report" Failure to Report might not get you the first time by itself. But discipline is cummulative. I think most "Non-Elements" stay in your Jacket for two years. If you keep rackin up Integrity issues, you can be workin at McDonalds or Wal-Mart sooner than you think. Integrity is priceless.
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as an IA rat (sarcasm of course), I would have to say most of the cases I work are a result of "Failure to Report" something or other. The problem is administrations are not going to put their piece of power on the line for a staff member because they were "backing up" their fellow officer for possibly going outside of the policy guidelines.
The crappy thing is most of the policy violations are not criminal and were probably not bad enough to instill the fear of a possible lawsuit. I swear, the admin types I interview all have one thing they are concerned with and it is not the well being of their officers or the orderly operation of the facility or community corrections office. Their concern is KEEPING THEIR JOB! This drives the mounting caseload I manage and the firings or suspensions of officers doing what is necessary to protect themselves and their battle buddies. |
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The biggest problem I see with most of these types of cases is that the officers don't know policy and law well enough to justify their actions--so they try to cover up what is usually something that is justifiable. They allow emotion to stampede them rather than understanding the rules of the game well before they need to.
This is a result of laziness on their part, and they pay the price because of it. In this day & age, I don't expect prison agencies to properly train staff so that this happens. So it's up to every person to train themselves. Hopefully, this forum can become a resource for that. |
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People get in more trouble for failure to report in the BOP because they admit that they failed to report something. They are under the impression that coming clean will get them a break, and find out later that they get slammed for a failure to report as their reward. I'm not saying you should lie, but don't think honesty will get you anything but time on the street.
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I've never been privy to the process in the Bureau, but in my past experience it has always been better to come clean to begin with than to try and things cover-up. Once the incident is found out coming clean may only mitigate the repercussions.
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