LEOSA covers NCDOC and I have proof

[KBCraig]

Originally Posted by Gooseneck

Did I say all that ?? No. I carry everywhere I go except for the places prohibited by law. If you feel the need to go into the bank packing by all means go ahead, but I'd prefer to hold onto my permit.

NC is one of only a couple of states that restrict carry in banks. It's a silly rule. No private property should ever be restricted by statute -- not banks, nor private schools, nor bars, nor churches.

And of course public property shouldn't be restricted because it's owned by the people.

[Gilly]

Originally Posted by Gooseneck

Did I say all that ?? No. I carry everywhere I go except for the places prohibited by law. If you feel the need to go into the bank packing by all means go ahead, but I'd prefer to hold onto my permit.

Amen Brother..

I have noticed many places such as department stores and shopping malls have taken the "no concealed" signs down. That wasn't the case not to long ago.

[Gooseneck]

Originally Posted by Gilly

Amen Brother..

I have noticed many places such as department stores and shopping malls have taken the "no concealed" signs down. That wasn't the case not to long ago.

I've noticed that too. Places are just becoming more CCW friendly because it could be there ass more ways than one. For instance, if a store does not allow guns then they are liable for your safetly if something were to happen. In other words they take away your ability to defend yourself so they must do it for you. This can result in huge monetary headaches for a company, so why not just let the eligible carry.

Sorry for the garbled message, I'm a bit hungover this morning.

[Custodian]

Restricted carry in banks in NC? Not SECU! Open carry all the way! I do it all the time, no concealed weapons does not equal no weapons.

[Crosstimbers Okie]

In neither of my states, Oklahoma & Missouri, is it illegal to carry concealed into a bank unless the management of that bank has posted the premises as a criminal protection zone.

The day I walk up to the entrance of my bank and see one of those signs is the day I get a new bank.

[Gooseneck]

I dont think it would be any issue being in uniform, but plain clothes open carry into a bank would send flares up around here.

[shadowmane]

I tend to err on the side of us not being qualified. It would be nice if we were. We need to protect ourselves from ex-inmates. But the State doesn't see it that way. We don't have the power to arrest. We have the power to detain an escaped inmate and return him to custody. We aren't arresting anyone. He's already been arrested and convicted.

[Custodian]

N.C.G.S 148-4 § 148‑4. Control and custody of prisoners; authorizing prisoner to leave place of confinement.

The Secretary of Correction shall have control and custody of all prisoners serving sentence in the State prison system, and such prisoners shall be subject to all the rules and regulations legally adopted for the government thereof. Any sentence to imprisonment in any unit of the State prison system, or to jail to be assigned to work under the State Department of Correction, shall be construed as a commitment, for such terms of imprisonment as the court may direct, to the custody of the Secretary of Correction or his authorized representative, who shall designate the places of confinement within the State prison system where the sentences of all such persons shall be served. The authorized agents of the Secretary shall have all the authority of peace officers for the purpose of transferring prisoners from place to place in the State as their duties might require and for apprehending, arresting, and returning to prison escaped prisoners, and may be commissioned by the Governor, either generally or specially, as special officers for returning escaped prisoners or other fugitives from justice from outside the State, when such persons have been extradited or voluntarily surrendered. Employees of departments, institutions, agencies, and political subdivisions of the State hiring prisoners to perform work outside prison confines may be designated as the authorized agents of the Secretary of Correction for the purpose of maintaining control and custody of prisoners who may be placed under the supervision and control of such employees, including guarding and transferring such prisoners from place to place in the State as their duties might require, and apprehending and arresting escaped prisoners and returning them to prison. The governing authorities of the State prison system are authorized to determine by rules and regulations the manner of designating these agents and placing prisoners under their supervision and control, which rules and regulations shall be established in the same manner as other rules and regulations for the government of the State prison system.

...says we have one Statutory Arrest power... over inmates. When you charge inmates for infractions or find an escaped one on the street (very rare) these are forms of arrest. NCDOC is a limited law enforcement agency that has limited scope (probationers/parolees/inmates) and unlimited powers over that scope.

By the way, I plain clothes open carry in banks all the time and wouldn't have it any other way. It is illegal to conceal carry in banks in North Carolina BUT NOT open carry.

OpenCarry.org - A Right Unexercised is a Right Lost!

By the way, we can't use profanity by law when speaking to inmates.

N.C.G.S. 148-23

§ 148‑23. Prison employees not to use intoxicants, narcotic drugs or profanity.

No one addicted to the use of alcoholic beverages, or narcotic drugs, shall be employed as superintendent, warden, guard, or in any other position connected with the State Department of Correction, where such position requires the incumbent to have any charge or direction of the prisoners; and anyone holding such position, or anyone who may be employed in any other capacity in the State prison system, who shall come under the influence of alcoholic beverages during hours of employment, or reports for duty under the effect of intoxicants, or narcotic drugs, or who shall become intoxicated, or uses narcotic drugs, under circumstances that bring discredit on the State Department of Correction, shall be subject to immediate dismissal from employment by any of the institutions and shall not be eligible for reinstatement to such position or be employed in any other position in any of the institutions. Any superintendent, warden, guard, supervisor, or other person holding any position in the State Department of Correction who curses a prisoner under his charge shall be subject to immediate dismissal from employment and shall not be eligible for reinstatement.

Anyone can recapture an escaped prisoner under the law and be compensated...

§ 148‑40. Recapture of escaped prisoners.

The rules and regulations for the government of the State prison system may provide for the recapture of convicts that may escape, or any convicts that may have escaped from the State's prison or prison camps, or county road camps of this State, and the State Department of Correction may pay to any person recapturing an escaped convict such reward or expense of recapture as the regulations may provide. Any citizen of North Carolina shall have authority to apprehend any convict who may escape before the expiration of his term of imprisonment whether he be guilty of a felony or misdemeanor, and retain him in custody and deliver him to the State Department of Correction. (1933, c. 172, s. 21; 1955, c. 238, s. 8; 1957, c. 349, s. 10; 1967, c. 996, s. 13.)



§ 148‑41. Recapture of escaping prisoners; reward.

The Secretary of Correction shall use every means possible to recapture, regardless of expense, any prisoners escaping from or leaving without permission any of the State prisons, camps, or farms. When any person who has been confined or placed to work escapes from the State prison system, the Secretary shall immediately notify the Governor, and accompany the notice with a full description of the escaped prisoner, together with such information as will aid in the recapture. The Governor may offer such rewards as he may deem desirable and necessary for the recapture and return to the State prison system of any person who may escape or who heretofore has escaped therefrom. Such reward earned shall be paid by warrant of the State Department of Correction and accounted for as a part of the expense of maintaining the State's prisons.