Fight Causes Prison Lockdown

[robeans]

Originally Posted by Thorn

How did they get the name, "Blackwater"?

I always call them, "Bathwater"!

It's named after the "black waters" of the swamps that surround the compound in NC. If you ever get a chance, read some of the articles on Erik Prince, the founder and CEO. He's, well interesting to say the least.

Back to topic, private prisons are bad, mmmkk.

[Movementarian]

I am totally against those types of contractors in general. You never get as good of a product as you do when you have direct control.

[GUNNER]

Originally Posted by KBCraig

We're straying OT here, but let me clarify that I have no problem with private armies, so long as they pay their own way. The term "company" is the same in business and military lingo. Military "companies" were started and funded by private individuals.

If the Congress had passed Ron Paul's (100% Constitutional !) act issuing Letters of Marque and Reprisal against Al Qaeda (essentially a bounty on bin Laden), ObL would have been toast long ago. Taxpayers would have saved a fortune, the job would have been done, and our soldiers wouldn't be over there getting shot at for building roads.

Good Point

[meeko]

Originally Posted by Movementarian

I am totally against those types of contractors in general. You never get as good of a product as you do when you have direct control.

Unfourtunatly what you or I think does not matter! Until there is a major change in the administration (from the pres to AG to all other department heads) the privitizing will be a large part of the GOV. They are saving a lot on retirements and health care costs of retiree's etc. And if they loose a few private prisons because of riots they don't care! remember the mavie john Q? where denzil washington couldn't get the hospital to save his dying son! the administration reminds me of the calius personality of the board at the hospital in that movie...They don't care

[coloradosgt79]

I work for corrections corporation of america. I hear all kinds of negative things about private facilities.Almost everything you hear is bs.Our SORT team gets way more training time than DOC does.We are staffed. Its just the media,they twist things around to make us look bad.Bad things happen all of the time in DOC and nobody hears about it. If something happens at a CCA it was because we are not trained or understaffed. We have a lot of officers here from DOC that said they would leave corrections before returning to DOC. So unless you've worked at CCA you should'nt trash it. It's a great place to work.

[GUNNER]

Originally Posted by coloradosgt79

I work for corrections corporation of america. I hear all kinds of negative things about private facilities.Almost everything you hear is bs.Our SORT team gets way more training time than DOC does.We are staffed. Its just the media,they twist things around to make us look bad.Bad things happen all of the time in DOC and nobody hears about it. If something happens at a CCA it was because we are not trained or understaffed. We have a lot of officers here from DOC that said they would leave corrections before returning to DOC. So unless you've worked at CCA you should'nt trash it. It's a great place to work.

Point taken. I suppose that is like anything else. One should ask those that are there before believing what one hears in the news. In addition, when it comes to training I know those of us in the BOP have nothing to brag about. Most county and state departments have much more and better training than we do.

[coloradosgt79]

We had a riot at another facility in colorado. Our SORT team was deployed there.We had two officers stuck in a unit. They dressed in inmate clothing and secured the door of the cell and acted like they were inmates. It worked until we were able to come rescue them.We went in that pod and cleaned house and got them officers out. The newspaper read CCA loses control of prison DOC SORT teams had to rescue 30 CCA employees.All do to poor training and understaffing. An inmate showed me the article. I'm still mad about that and that was a couple years back.

[Crosstimbers Okie]

Don't let anyone fool you. We in the feds work for the dregs at the bottom of the barrel. It doesn't take much to beat us. I have a friend who came to the feds from Wackenhut. He was shocked to find that he "moved up" to an organization with only a fraction of the professionalism, and pure garbage for training & equipment compared to the Wackenhut prison in Lawton, OK.

My problem with the private operators are the lower than average salaries they pay their staff. And the friend I mentioned above? He's still with the feds for one simple reason--money.

[coloradosgt79]

I agree the money does'nt compare to state or federal. I make it up in overtime. At my facility they will let you work up to 24hrs of overtime a week. Last year I pulled home 36,000. We just expanded another 740 beds so we can bring home our inmates from north fork in oklahoma. So we just recieved another raise it's getting better.

[Crosstimbers Okie]

Doesn't Colorado DOC start officers at about $36,000?