Maricopa Sheriffs

Area51 · 06-19-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AZDOCVisitor

....there are "stand up guys" in prison they are not all thugs!

Yes we know, they are called Correctional Officers. We are the good guys, there to watch the bad guys.

You will quickly learn that your arguements will not make a large ripple here. They will fall solidly on deaf ears. Perhaps the site you are looking for will be the site for ACLU, or an inmate friendly site.

AZDOCVisitor · 06-19-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kebemt

When It comes to a world where I want my kids to be safe to walk down to the park and play like I did when I was there age there is no such thing as too tough of crime.

I agree the system is not perfect but if anything that's because there are not enough jails out there run like this one. Yes there are people who are innocent who end up in jail. But for every one that is truly innocent (as in did not do it not just got off the hook by a jury) there are 100 who are guilty as sin. Your husband is in for a reason. You say he has a problem. I say he is the problem. He choose to use drugs for whatever reasons he has. Even if he is every thing you say he is then ok good, but he still knowingly broke the law. He bought drugs from someone I am guessing not a girl scout. Who knows about that guy be gave his money over too.... maybe he is not such a great guy and he is using that money to buy more drugs from his dealer to sell to kids and what have you. In the end you husband was wrong and needs to be locked up and punished to think about what he did. When I ground my kids they get more punishment then my offenders at work get for killin folks. I hate to say it but jails are suposed to be punishment. The mind set that they aren't is just silly. I as a CO am not there to punish however jails are there to punish. You will not find any one who will agree with you on this site.... a few others have tried in the past and none have ever won an argument about any of these issues.

My husband hasn't done drugs in years....5 1/2 he was in prison a long time ago and did his time for possesing drugs...he is in prison again not for drugs but because he had a past and was charged with a felony due to drugs, he had gun in his truck that belonged to a friend, due to his past extensive arrest history they searched his truck and found the gun and gave him prison time. So because he had a past he got screwed! So he broke the law yes, but doesn't deserve to be in prison...he is a non-violent, non-threat to society. I want the street to be safe too...but come on locking up someone for this kind of crap is nonesence. I don't care if you agree or not. I'm here to understand what my husband is referring to when he describes what he goes through in there. And hearing how you all treat inmates I can see what he's talking about.

AZDOCVisitor · 06-19-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Area51

Yes we know, they are called Correctional Officers. We are the good guys, there to watch the bad guys.

You will quickly learn that your arguements will not make a large ripple here. They will fall solidly on deaf ears. Perhaps the site you are looking for will be the site for ACLU, or an inmate friendly site.

My husband is no different than you he just was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong person. Due to his past mistakes he got time when a first time offender for this type of "crime" would have received probation. I'm not here to make a ripple I here to somehow understand what my husband has to put up with.

Are you trying to tell me that I am not welcome here? I can't ask questions? I can't state my opinion, like you do yours? Unlike my husband, I am a free, tax paying citizen and believe I have a right to be on this public forum if I want to.

shakedownshorti · 06-19-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AZDOCVisitor

My husband hasn't done drugs in years....5 1/2 he was in prison a long time ago and did his time for possesing drugs...he is in prison again not for drugs but because he had a past and was charged with a felony due to drugs, he had gun in his truck that belonged to a friend, due to his past extensive arrest history they searched his truck and found the gun and gave him prison time. So because he had a past he got screwed! So he broke the law yes, but doesn't deserve to be in prison...he is a non-violent, non-threat to society. I want the street to be safe too...but come on locking up someone for this kind of crap is nonesence. I don't care if you agree or not. I'm here to understand what my husband is referring to when he describes what he goes through in there. And hearing how you all treat inmates I can see what he's talking about.

First of all how come it is always someone elses fault? If he can own up to HIS mistakes, he will never make it in this world, in his case prison will have a revolving door....have you tried thedramadome.com they will side with you on any account!

He got caught with a gun....sounds like he was fittin' to become violent?!

Typical of an inmate family member, if he doesn't like how he is treated then tell him to stay the hell out of prison! SIMPLE! Obey the law, don't do drugs, don't carry a weapon after a felony conviction!

Area51 · 06-19-2008, 03:14 PM

Not at all, I'm saying your point of view won't get a lot of play here...

"due to his past extensive arrest history"

And you don't see a problem with this?

Perhaps I should chang my tag...

Free men have arms, slaves & exfelons do not...

"Free men have arms; slaves do not."

William Blackstone (1723-1780)

GUNNER · 06-19-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shakedownshorti

First of all how come it is always someone elses fault? If he can own up to HIS mistakes, he will never make it in this world, in his case prison will have a revolving door....have you tried thedramadome.com they will side with you on any account!

He got caught with a gun....sounds like he was fittin' to become violent?!

Typical of an inmate family member, if he doesn't like how he is treated then tell him to stay the hell out of prison! SIMPLE! Obey the law, don't do drugs, don't carry a weapon after a felony conviction!

Thats what I'm screamin.
That is the problem these days. Its always someone Else's fault. None of these people want to take responsibility for their own actions. Do you know how many times a day I hear "I'm doing someone Else's time CO, I wouldn't snitch so they put me in prison instead"...Yea right.

Area51 · 06-19-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AZDOCVisitor

And hearing how you all treat inmates I can see what he's talking about.

Let's get this straight. He is complaining because he felt he is being done wrong. Right?

1. He has "an extensive arrest record"

2. Has problems using drugs.

3. Hangs with friends that do not have his best interest at heart (former inmates?)

4. You seem to make excuses for HIS behavior, what gives?

5. He refuses to take responsibility for this own behavior.

6. Evidently HE feels comfortable in an instutional enviroment.

And you want to complain about how he is being mistreated and abused...

I see a simple solution to this, tell him to behave and stay his A$$ out of jail...

See, simple...

AZDOCVisitor · 06-19-2008, 04:15 PM

Would it matter if it were a hunting gun? It was NOT his damn gun! He has changed his past behavior, works as a Sales Manager making 4 times the amount of money you will ever make, we live in a very nice home, have a 2 kids who absolutly adore their Dad, we are very faithful in our church, and respected in our community. Yes, he has a freaking past drug problem, and 2 past drug convictions that he served time for...OVER, REFORMED, DONE with that life!! No one is making any excuses for him....he shoudn't have let the guy in his truck...that guy was not a felon. Regardless, being away from his family, not being able to be the providing man that he is, it's torture on me, the kids and him.... you obviously don't care about human emotions because you apparently don't have any yourself. I KNOW for a fact that he never wanted to put himself in a situation to be taken from his family ever again, I know that he is very angry at himself for "knowing that a gun was in his truck" would be illegal. I believe he is being punish enough being locked up, but the way that I hear you guys talk about how they should be treated is WRONG. Just a little history on my husband: Cacasion, 8 years Army National Guard, Top Sales Manager making over $120K/ yr, Father of a 9 year old boy and 7 year old girl, cowboy/farmboy, likes to hunt/fish/camp, owns 3 nice vehicles and a Jet boat, not your typical THUG that you think ALL inmates are. Quit generalizing about inmates. Do you not think that people deserve a chance to proove themselves that once they have served their time, they should still be labled as a POS I/M?? And to let the guys who don't create problems, don't get tickets, work, and do their programing still get treated like crap?? I have had very few occasions where I have been treated poorly visiting my husband in prison, they can clearly see that we are not the typical low life loosers they are used to dealing with. Even the inmates ask my husband "Why are you here?" his response "Because I'm an idiot". I know that going to prison sucks and it shouldn't be a place of comfort but is it necessary to make it WORSE on them?? Please answer this question, and tell me why?

Tinkplink · 06-19-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AZDOCVisitor

Would it matter if it were a hunting gun? It was NOT his damn gun! He has changed his past behavior, works as a Sales Manager making 4 times the amount of money you will ever make, we live in a very nice home, have a 2 kids who absolutly adore their Dad, we are very faithful in our church, and respected in our community. Yes, he has a freaking past drug problem, and 2 past drug convictions that he served time for...OVER, REFORMED, DONE with that life!! No one is making any excuses for him....he shoudn't have let the guy in his truck...that guy was not a felon. Regardless, being away from his family, not being able to be the providing man that he is, it's torture on me, the kids and him.... you obviously don't care about human emotions because you apparently don't have any yourself. I KNOW for a fact that he never wanted to put himself in a situation to be taken from his family ever again, I know that he is very angry at himself for "knowing that a gun was in his truck" would be illegal. I believe he is being punish enough being locked up, but the way that I hear you guys talk about how they should be treated is WRONG. Just a little history on my husband: Cacasion, 8 years Army National Guard, Top Sales Manager making over $120K/ yr, Father of a 9 year old boy and 7 year old girl, cowboy/farmboy, likes to hunt/fish/camp, owns 3 nice vehicles and a Jet boat, not your typical THUG that you think ALL inmates are. Quit generalizing about inmates. Do you not think that people deserve a chance to proove themselves that once they have served their time, they should still be labled as a POS I/M?? And to let the guys who don't create problems, don't get tickets, work, and do their programing still get treated like crap?? I have had very few occasions where I have been treated poorly visiting my husband in prison, they can clearly see that we are not the typical low life loosers they are used to dealing with. Even the inmates ask my husband "Why are you here?" his response "Because I'm an idiot". I know that going to prison sucks and it shouldn't be a place of comfort but is it necessary to make it WORSE on them?? Please answer this question, and tell me why?

We all know that he was/is a pilar of the community, he has found Jesus, and has brought great undue stress on you and your family. It sounds like he is on his third strike. I personally feel that 3 strikes and your out. Should be sentenced to life for not being able to follow rules. But thats just me. But to answer your question: YES, IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME, DON'T DO THE CRIME!!!

AZDOCVisitor · 06-19-2008, 04:47 PM

Yes, let's just send everyone who get's caught up in drugs, and becomes a recovering addict to life in prison....if they are not hurting other's but themselvs to LIFE IN PRISON....you are ignorant. Child Molesters, murderers, violent assaults, rapists, I say give them life & death....but come on be realistic here....
Toughin - Wednesday, February 7, 2007