Refusal of Official Time

[Area51]

Talladega has no problem with the union getting official time, until recently.

It seems the president and warden were trading official time for grievances. Giving him a heads up on what was coming. They staved my MRSA grievance off for two years. We have inmates walking he compound with open sores. Staff is getting it, as well as their families...

Now they are showing interest in it, I have a meeting WITH a union rep and warden in the morning about it.

Yet when the warden leaves, they are willing to listen and do something with it...

WTF?

After the warden went to Coleman it stopped, and the president and his click became very unpopular...

Or so the rumor mill has it...

Hmmmmmmmmm

[cllingo]

Are you referring to D.B. Drew?

[Area51]

Yeah thats him...

For some strange reason he goes by the name Debo here...

Has he got your department heads standing main line, where they are not allowed to talk to each other yet??

[bop_steward]

Originally Posted by Tinkplink

I am kinda of curious, which would be priorty, the security and safe running of the institution or giving official time for the union? I am not for or against either way, I was just curious as to everyones perspective on this issue.

Well, I pose this counter to you, the security and safe running of the institution does not seem to be a concern when SIA wants you to be interviewed. Would you consider your position a double standard?

[bop_steward]

Originally Posted by Southernguardian

I was just wondering if anyone else out there is haveing the same problem we are haveing here at Coleman with the stewards that are custody officers getting Official Time.

Management here at Coleman is refusing official time to custody officers using the excuse of custody being short staffed. They are also using the same excuse to not allow custody officers to go to stewards training or attend the district meetings. In my opinion they are dictating to the local who can and can not attend training and represent the local..

I was just wondering if any of the other locals out there are experiancing similar issues and how wide spread this may be..

Do a memo requesting to have official time. In that memo, state that should the agency not be able to grant this request, an alternate date needs to be established in accordance with Article 11 of the master agreement. Do not drop it off for them to "look at the rosters", sit and wait for the signed response. They will either grant the date you are wanting or they have to provide you with an alternate date. If they become stubborn, perform your union duties while you are off-duty, then file a grievance for the denial and request to be made whole(i.e. pay you for your time) as the agency was aware that you had to perform your duties as a steward and ALL GOVERNMENT WORK IS COMPENSIBLE!!! This includes Union business.

[bop_steward]

Originally Posted by Crosstimbers Okie

Well, back in 1998, March 8th specifically, Federal Bureau of Prisons representatives signed a contract with Council of Prison Locals representatives. In this contract the two parties agreed to do certain things in certain ways. That contract is called the Master Agreement.

I don't know what your views are concerning the sanctity of contract, but I'm all ears.

Voiding the sanctity of contract is like voiding women and blacks the sanctity of voting! Both are guaranteed under the law. The Contract is not just some little book that is a hassle for the agency to have to follow, it is a set of groundrules for both parties to follow, UNDER THE LAW!

[bop_steward]

Originally Posted by Area51

Yeah thats him...

For some strange reason he goes by the name Debo here...

Has he got your department heads standing main line, where they are not allowed to talk to each other yet??

Interesting, he stopped your official time there, and now he is stopping official time here.....I wonder if it is just the Stewards getting blocked, or are the VP's, EVP, and Pres losing their official time also?

[TimeBomb]

Originally Posted by bop_steward

If they become stubborn, perform your union duties while you are off-duty, then file a grievance for the denial and request to be made whole(i.e. pay you for your time) as the agency was aware that you had to perform your duties as a steward and ALL GOVERNMENT WORK IS COMPENSIBLE!!! This includes Union business.

I was just about to post this exact statement. Locals have already won this in a back pay grievance.

[KBCraig]

Originally Posted by TimeBomb

I was just about to post this exact statement. Locals have already won this in a back pay grievance.

The local at FCI Big Spring won one of these just about 2 years ago. Ask Kathy New for the details.

[Kebemt]

Originally Posted by Area51

Talladega has no problem with the union getting official time, until recently.

It seems the president and warden were trading official time for grievances. Giving him a heads up on what was coming. They staved my MRSA grievance off for two years. We have inmates walking he compound with open sores. Staff is getting it, as well as their families...

Now they are showing interest in it, I have a meeting WITH a union rep and warden in the morning about it.

Yet when the warden leaves, they are willing to listen and do something with it...

WTF?

After the warden went to Coleman it stopped, and the president and his click became very unpopular...

Or so the rumor mill has it...

Hmmmmmmmmm

How did the meet go???